Heath Hardesty on How Imagination Shapes the Way We See the World, the Disintegration of Our Present Age, and His Book All Things Together
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Heath Hardesty on How Imagination Shapes the Way We See the World, the Disintegration of Our Present Age, and His Book All Things Together

On today's episode we welcome Heath Hardesty, Lead Pastor of Valley Community Church in Pleasanton, California, and author of All Things Together: How Apprenticeship to Jesus Is the Way of Flourishing in a Fragmented World. Heath's journey into pastoral ministry began as a plumber's apprentice and eventually grew into an apprenticeship of a different kind, one where he learned to follow the call of Jesus and eventually to shepherd a local church.

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Ben Johnson on Stewarding a 97-Year Old Church, Fathering Young Leaders, and Vision for the Church in Calgary
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Ben Johnson on Stewarding a 97-Year Old Church, Fathering Young Leaders, and Vision for the Church in Calgary

In today's episode, Ben Johnson joins Jason for a conversation on pastoral stewardship, generational legacy, and what it looks like to lead a nearly century-old church into its next chapter. Ben is the Lead Pastor of First Assembly Calgary, a Pentecostal church planted 97 years ago that has helped birth many other Pentecostal congregations across both Calgary and western Canada. Together they trace the story of First Assembly, the 35-year-old Tehillah Mondays gathering, and the heart that First Assembly has for worship, prayer, and the next generation. 

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Jeremy Norton on Life in Canada’s North, Pastoring Small Churches, and What the Church Offers the Digital World
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Jeremy Norton on Life in Canada’s North, Pastoring Small Churches, and What the Church Offers the Digital World

In today’s conversation, Jason sits down with Jeremy Norton, lead pastor of Mountainview Church in Whitehorse, Yukon. Jeremy’s story is one of patience and faithful presence in a part of Canada that many people have never seen firsthand. From southern Ontario to Alaska, Alberta, and eventually the Yukon, Jeremy reflects on the road that led him to serve Canada’s north and the deep sense of calling that kept drawing him there.

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Jay Kim on Ministry in the Age of AI, Pastoring in Silicon Valley, and Offering a Non-Anxious Presence in a Digital World
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Jay Kim on Ministry in the Age of AI, Pastoring in Silicon Valley, and Offering a Non-Anxious Presence in a Digital World

In today’s episode, Jay Kim joins Jason for a conversation on pastoral ministry, spiritual formation, and what it means to follow Jesus faithfully in a world shaped by speed, distraction, and rapidly changing technology. Jay reflects on how digital culture is reshaping our imaginations, our communities, and even our understanding of what it means to be human.

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N.T. Wright on Reading Scripture with Wonder, God’s Homecoming, and Champagne for Breakfast
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N.T. Wright on Reading Scripture with Wonder, God’s Homecoming, and Champagne for Breakfast

In this conversation, Jason Ballard sits down with N.T. Wright, New Testament scholar, Anglican minister, and longtime teacher, to talk about the grand story of Scripture, the vocation of the scholar-pastor, and the unique hope that sustains weary leaders.

This is a rich conversation for pastors, preachers, seminary students, and anyone longing to love Scripture more deeply, live more faithfully in the story of God, and find inspiration in the midst of ministry’s daily rhythms. 

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Cass Langton on Church Planting Post-Hillsong, Beauty as Witness, and Pastoring Creatives
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Cass Langton on Church Planting Post-Hillsong, Beauty as Witness, and Pastoring Creatives

In this conversation, Jason Ballard sits down with Cass Langton, pastor, worship leader, and longtime creative leader, to talk about church planting, healing after ministry transition, and why creativity and beauty matter deeply in the life of the church.

Cass reflects on the surprising journey that led her and her family from 26 years at Hillsong into planting The Local Church in Sydney. She shares honestly about the slow and painful work of healing after ministry transition, the importance of resisting reactionary leadership, and the grace of learning to recognize God’s presence in the quiet, ordinary moments of life.

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Dr. Henry Cloud on the Pastor’s Inner Life, Leading Without Losing Your Soul, and Learning How to Discern 
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Dr. Henry Cloud on the Pastor’s Inner Life, Leading Without Losing Your Soul, and Learning How to Discern 

Today on the podcast, Jason is joined by Dr. Henry Cloud. Henry is a clinical psychologist, leadership consultant, and bestselling author whose work has helped shape the leadership of countless pastors and ministry leaders over the past several decades. Many will know him through books like Boundaries, Integrity, and Necessary Endings, where he brings together insights from psychology, relationships, and leadership to help people grow in health and effectiveness.

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Finu Iype on Evangelism in the Canadian Context, Being Shaped Through Suffering, and Believing God for National Transformation
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Finu Iype on Evangelism in the Canadian Context, Being Shaped Through Suffering, and Believing God for National Transformation

In today’s episode Jason sits down with Finu Iype, Co-Senior Pastor of Village Church in Surrey, British Columbia, to trace his story from an Indian family line marked by conversion and adoption into the family of God, to his early years preaching in small towns across Ontario, to eventually stepping into senior leadership at Village Church in Surrey. Along the way, Finu shares what he’s learned about evangelism, the cost of calling, and the ways God builds His church beyond the influence of any one leader.

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John Ortberg on How Pastoring Forms the Pastor, Why Many Churches Struggle with Discipleship, and Arranging Your Life for Joy and Contentment
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John Ortberg on How Pastoring Forms the Pastor, Why Many Churches Struggle with Discipleship, and Arranging Your Life for Joy and Contentment

John Ortberg is a pastor, author, and spiritual formation teacher known for helping people experience life with God in their everyday lives. In today’s conversation, John shares his journey into pastoral ministry, the unexpected role that decision-making played in discovering his calling, and how God uses the work of pastoring to shape the soul of the pastor. John shares the heart of the gospel as life with God in the present, not just the future, and he discusses how to form people into that reality through clear pathways of discipleship, honest self-examination, and practices that lead to transformation.

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Phil Reinders on a Shared Rule of Life,  Recovering Ancient Paths, and Being a Missionary to Canada
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Phil Reinders on a Shared Rule of Life,  Recovering Ancient Paths, and Being a Missionary to Canada

In today’s episode, Father Justin Huang invites us into his journey of faith, vocation, and pastoral ministry. From a teenage conversion to a long and costly discernment of priesthood, Father Justin reflects on the ways that God leads us through surrender, suffering, and trust into deeper freedom and joy.

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Father Justin Huang on Vocational Discernment, the Personal Cost of Ministry, and a Life Anchored in God’s Love
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Father Justin Huang on Vocational Discernment, the Personal Cost of Ministry, and a Life Anchored in God’s Love

In today’s episode, Father Justin Huang invites us into his journey of faith, vocation, and pastoral ministry. From a teenage conversion to a long and costly discernment of priesthood, Father Justin reflects on the ways that God leads us through surrender, suffering, and trust into deeper freedom and joy.

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Chris Dias on Discerning a Call to Ministry, Raising up Pastors, and the Cost of Being a Sending Church
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Chris Dias on Discerning a Call to Ministry, Raising up Pastors, and the Cost of Being a Sending Church

In today’s episode, Jason sits down with Chris Dias of Hope Bible Church in Oakville, Ontario to discuss Chris’ journey from the corporate world into vocational ministry. Chris reflects on Hope Bible Church’s unique co-lead model, grounded in long-term friendship and clear “highest and best use” roles, and shares honestly about the joy and struggle of being a church committed to equipping and sending out ministers and church planters. Along the way, he highlights the importance of prayerful discernment and the courageous work of calling and forming leaders for the good of the local church.

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Jason Ballard on Hope for the Church in Canada, Serving Pastors as a Pastor, and the Importance of Pastoral Friendship
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Jason Ballard on Hope for the Church in Canada, Serving Pastors as a Pastor, and the Importance of Pastoral Friendship

Five years into planting The Way Church in Vancouver and five years into The Pastorate, Jason steps into the guest chair to reflect on what he’s seeing in the Canadian church and what gives him real hope for pastors today. In this role-reversal episode, Jordan interviews Jason about his life as a local pastor, the story behind The Pastorate, and why he still wants to serve pastors as a practitioner, not a commentator.

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Nestor Abdon on Multicultural Ministry in Canada, Welcoming Newcomers, and Second-Generation Immigrants as Cultural Bridges
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Nestor Abdon on Multicultural Ministry in Canada, Welcoming Newcomers, and Second-Generation Immigrants as Cultural Bridges

In this conversation, Nestor traces his journey from growing up in the Philippines to arriving in Canada in 2010, pastoring within a Filipino church, serving at a refugee centre, and eventually leading newcomers and diaspora ministries at large churches in the Toronto area. His life and ministry have been shaped by the conviction that migration is not just a social reality but a biblical lens, that God is gathering the nations in Canadian cities, and that welcoming newcomers is central to the church’s participation in the gospel today.

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Derrick Miller on Co-Vocational Calling, Merging with a 100-Year-Old Church, and Leading Through Change
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Derrick Miller on Co-Vocational Calling, Merging with a 100-Year-Old Church, and Leading Through Change

In today’s episode, Derrick Miller invites us into the story of Makers Church in San Diego and the co-vocational calling that’s shaped his life as both pastor and firefighter. Derrick shares how a surprising “church marriage” with a 100-year-old congregation, neighborhood change, and a multi-million-dollar building renovation have forced him and his team to slow down, listen carefully to the Spirit, and rethink what sustainable leadership actually looks like. Along the way, he offers a lived picture of priesthood-of-all-believers, where every follower of Jesus is sent into their workplace, street, and city as a full participant in God’s mission.

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Darrell Johnson on Preaching Advent: Six Frameworks to Borrow, and His New Book Awaken Wonder
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Darrell Johnson on Preaching Advent: Six Frameworks to Borrow, and His New Book Awaken Wonder

In today’s episode, Darrell Johnson opens his journal and his toolkit, sharing how a hard year has softened his pastoral heart and how a simple morning liturgy that includes journaling, reading Scripture, and listing notes of gratitude have helped refresh his soul. Darrell invites us into his new book, an Advent reader titled Awaken Wonder, and shares six practical frameworks for preaching through Advent that he invites pastors to glean from and borrow. Darrell helps us imagine Advent preaching that’s both bold and deeply formative.

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Junie Josue on Empowering a Young, Multicultural Church, Hearing God’s Call from Manila to Winnipeg, and Carrying a Vision to Plant 100 Churches Across Canada
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Junie Josue on Empowering a Young, Multicultural Church, Hearing God’s Call from Manila to Winnipeg, and Carrying a Vision to Plant 100 Churches Across Canada

On today’s episode of The Pastorate we welcome Junie Josue, pastor of International Worship Center, in Winnipeg, Manitoba. From a three-day fast in Manila to planting a multi-ethnic church in central Canada, Junie shares a Spirit-led story of obedience, discipleship, and multiplication. The conversation traces the discernment journey that brought Junie and his wife, Fatima, to Canada in 1999, the cell-church structure that fuels IWC’s inter-provincal growth, and a vision to plant 100 churches across the nation. Junie also opens up about the inner life of a pastor, moving from performance to presence, and letting God heal old wounds. 

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Shaila Visser with the Lead Pastors Fellowship: Reaching Gen Alpha, the Future of Alpha Canada, and Canada’s Unique Spiritual Moment
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Shaila Visser with the Lead Pastors Fellowship: Reaching Gen Alpha, the Future of Alpha Canada, and Canada’s Unique Spiritual Moment

Today’s episode features a conversation between Tammy Giffen, Lead Pastor of Groundswell Church in Turo Nova Scotia and Shaila Visser, National Director of Alpha Canada and Senior Vice President at Alpha International. It’s a recording of a conversation that took place live in front of our Lead Pastor Fellowship cohort, two weeks ago when they were gathered together in Vancouver for a city meetup. Over the course of that week together, the cohort, made up of 15 pastors from across Canada, spent time learning from local pastors and leaders, touring local churches, and enjoying quality time together. This conversation between Tammy and Shaila was one of the sessions of the week that was designed to help encourage our cohort members and sharpen their pastoral imagination, specifically around the themes of evangelism, prayer, and ministry to Gen Alpha and Gen Z. 

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Ryan Johnson on Healing from Brokenness, Leading through Pain, and Building a Community of Worship and Hope
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Ryan Johnson on Healing from Brokenness, Leading through Pain, and Building a Community of Worship and Hope

In this conversation, Jason and Ryan explore the messy beginnings of Church Untitled, how a community born out of hurt became a place of dependence and hope. They talk about the call to consecration that shaped their early days, and how worship has become the defining posture of their community, creating space for healing and shepherding the soul of the city.

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Pete Hughes with the Lead Pastors Fellowship: Pastoral Courage, Revival, and Leading in the Power of the Spirit
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Pete Hughes with the Lead Pastors Fellowship: Pastoral Courage, Revival, and Leading in the Power of the Spirit

We’re pulling back the curtain on our Lead Pastors Fellowship and inviting you into a conversation that Pete Hughes, pastor of KXC London, had with our cohort participants during one of their monthly Zoom sessions. We’re sharing it here because it speaks directly into the cultural moment we find ourselves in, and because applications for the next round of the Lead Pastors Fellowship open next month.

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